tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post7016470998508008492..comments2023-07-11T18:45:23.516-07:00Comments on The Masonic Verses - Lockerbie and Related Scams: The Masonic Verses Part X The Bombing of UTA 772 - 19th September 1989.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post-31549890457339455722009-01-26T07:21:00.000-08:002009-01-26T07:21:00.000-08:00Dear Baz,I can answer a definite 'yes' to your fir...Dear Baz,<BR/><BR/>I can answer a definite 'yes' to your first and last questions. However, I'm not sure whether to answer 'yes' or 'no' to the intervening questions starting with: did I not do such and such?<BR/><BR/>As far as "Le Monde Diplomatique" is concerned, the French version is good enough for me. I'm afraid that, like you, I haven't got a subscription for the English translation.<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely,<BR/><BR/>Patrick HaseldinePatrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post-76660263597213837912009-01-26T03:42:00.000-08:002009-01-26T03:42:00.000-08:00Dear Patrick, "The Le Monde Diplomatique" artic...Dear Patrick,<BR/><BR/> "The Le Monde Diplomatique" article is subscription only and I am too tight to pay. If you would like to e-mail it I would be grateful. However I note in the synopsis the author claims the plan to blame Libya for Lockerbie was improvised in 1990 in the circumstances of the the Gulf War.<BR/><BR/><BR/>As I pointed out in my article "War By Other Means" this is demonstrably untrue!bazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338162927520376063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post-10933497861906929102009-01-26T03:27:00.000-08:002009-01-26T03:27:00.000-08:00Dear Patrick, Have you actually read my article ? ...Dear Patrick,<BR/><BR/> Have you actually read my article ? Did I not write "there was no explosive residue on the fragment"- <BR/><BR/>did I not write -<BR/><BR/> "While the circuit board in the sample timer supplied by Ming-Yong was identical to the fragment recovered this did not necessarily prove this fragment came from one of the timers supplied to Shabbani which involved 101 of the several thousand circuit boards supplied by Tai Yuen." <BR/><BR/> If I am relying too heavily on Judge Brugiere's report would I have pointed out that what Brugiere claimed AWAD said about Libyan sponsorship was not what he actually said or that Bernard Yanga's "divergences" were not trivial matters? Did I not question the claim Mangatany was a mule? Did I not question if there was sufficient evidence to convict in a Legal sense? Whose "agenda" did you think I was pushing?<BR/><BR/> The central point of the story concerned the MST timers,"Omar Saber" and the "Revelations of Vincent Canistraro."<BR/><BR/> You refer to a book that reveals how the FBI fitted-up Libya for both the Lockerbie and UTA 772 bombings. Pardon me but aren't you the one who claims, for reasons I cannot grasp, the South African Government blew up PA103 to murder a UN diplomat?bazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338162927520376063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post-74718966335479580442009-01-24T12:30:00.000-08:002009-01-24T12:30:00.000-08:00Dear Baz,I would have found your parallels and con...Dear Baz,<BR/><BR/>I would have found your parallels and contrasts between Pan Am 103 and UTA 772 drawn above to be a lot more interesting had they not relied so heavily upon the report by French judge Jean-Louis Bruguière as well as information supplied by the Washington law firm, Crowell Moring.<BR/><BR/>Bruguière's UTA 772 case against Libya was largely discredited by French investigative journalist Pierre Péan who revealed how the FBI had conspired to incriminate Libya for the sabotage of both Pan Am 103 and UTA 772 (see http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2001/03/PEAN/14934 "Les preuves trafiquées du terrorisme libyen"). An English translation of the article in "Le Monde Diplomatique" is available at: http://mondediplo.com/2001/03/05libya.<BR/><BR/>Péan's book was published in March 2001, just after the Pan Am 103 bombing trial had ended with the conviction of Libyan Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi on the strength of just one piece of hard evidence: a tiny fragment of a timing device manufactured by the Swiss firm Mebo.<BR/><BR/>Two years earlier, six Libyans were tried in absentia and convicted in 1999 by a Paris court for the UTA 772 bombing. Péan claimed there was something wrong: "It is striking to witness the similarity of the discoveries, by the FBI, of the scientific proof of the two aircraft that were sabotaged: the Pan Am Boeing 747 and the UTA DC-10. Among the thousands or rather tens of thousands of pieces of debris collected near the crash sites, just one printed circuit board fragment was found in each case, which carried enough information to allow its identification: Mebo for the Boeing 747 and "TY" (from Taiwan) for the DC-10."<BR/><BR/>Péan went on to accuse judge Jean-Louis Bruguière of ignoring the results of an analysis by Claude Colisti of the Direction Centrale de la Police Judiciaire (DCPJ) – one of the world's foremost explosives experts – that the "TY" timer fragment had no trace of explosives residue, and could not therefore have been connected to the improvised explosive device that destroyed UTA 772. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, neither a forensic inquiry by the Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST) nor an examination by the scientific laboratory of the Préfecture de Police (PP) could make any connection between the timer fragment and the bomb. According to Péan, judge Bruguière had therefore taken at face value the word of an FBI political operative - Thomas Thurman - who had been discredited in 1997 by the US Inspector-General, Michael Bromwich, and told never again to appear in court as an expert witness, rather than accept the findings of French forensic experts. It was revealed at the Pan Am 103 bombing trial that the British scientist, Dr Thomas Hayes, had also failed to test the Mebo timer fragment for explosives residue. Such reckless disregard for the integrity of forensic evidence is likely to have the most profound effects upon the Scottish judicial process in relation to Megrahi's second appeal against conviction (see http://www.guardian.co.uk/Lockerbie/Story/0,,2114463,00.html "Libyan jailed over Lockerbie wins right to appeal").<BR/><BR/>And, finally, it is worth noting that Crowell Moring's civil case against Libya claiming $6 billion in compensation has collapsed as a result of the US-Libya Comprehensive Claims Settlement Agreement, signed in Tripoli on 14 August 2008. One of former President Bush's last acts was to sign (end October 2008) an executive order restoring the Libyan government's immunity from terror-related lawsuits and dismissing all pending compensation cases in the US (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7703110.stm).<BR/><BR/>So it seems the American law firm still has a pretty big axe to grind against Libya.<BR/><BR/>Yours sincerely,<BR/><BR/>Patrick HaseldinePatrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7986668663006573780.post-70862722721942326902009-01-21T04:54:00.000-08:002009-01-21T04:54:00.000-08:00Dear Sir,I don't know who you are, but your views ...Dear Sir,<BR/><BR/><BR/>I don't know who you are, but your views on Lockerbie are in many ways similar to mine. I've been interested In Lockerbie since UTA, as a relative of mine was on that plane.<BR/><BR/>I have not been able to put my thoughts together quite as articulately as you, but I have written a 200 page reserach document on the matter, and I am quite willing to send you a copy.<BR/><BR/>It is currently being updated.<BR/><BR/>It is clear you are familiar the Crowell and Moring website materials on the matter, as you mispell the Juge's name in the way that website does.<BR/><BR/>Please get in touch with me at CBNorrie@hotmail.comCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08162991635180168933noreply@blogger.com